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Could Jesus come back tomorrow? Is the Lord’s Return Imminent?

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Matthew 24:36
No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Matthew 24:42
Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day on which your Lord will come.

Matthew 24:43
But understand this: If the owner of the house had known in which watch of the night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into.

Matthew 24:44
For this reason, you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect Him.

Matthew 25:13
Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or the hour.

Mark 13:35
Therefore keep watch, because you do not know when the master of the house will return–whether in the evening, at midnight, when the rooster crows, or in the morning.

Acts 1:7

Jesus replied, “It is not for you to know times or seasons that the Father has fixed by His own authority.

1 Corinthians 1:8
He will sustain you to the end, so that you will be blameless on the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.

1 Thessalonians 5:4
But you, brothers, are not in the darkness so that this day should overtake you like a thief.

2 Peter 3:10
But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar, the elements will be dissolved in the fire, and the earth and its works will not be found.

Could Jesus come back tomorrow? Is the Lord’s return imminent?

The Bible says we need to be ready at all times because we do not know the day or the hour that Christ will return.

Pretribulationists argue that if Christ returns at the end of the Great Tribulation then his return will not be imminent or like a thief.

The reference point for God is Jerusalem.  With all that is going on in the Middle East it is quite possible that the Great Tribulation has started and we have missed the signs that Jesus talked about on the Mt of Olives (Matthew 24).

The Western Church is relatively spared from overt hostile persecution.  It tends to be persecuted more by atheists, evolutionists, moral decay and the general Godlessness of society.  The Western Church is more likely to be the Woman who sits on the beast in Revelation Chapter 17 than the persecuted Church of Revelation Chapter 13.

The Bible says that Jesus will not come back until the man of lawlessness has been revealed.  (2 Thess 2:3)  But can we be sure that we have not missed the antichrist’s coming?

We are called to be watchful so that the day of the Lord will not surprise us.

The fact that God does have a schedule for the second coming of Christ does not mean that Christ could not come back tomorrow.  We cannot know for sure where God is up to in his schedule.  He may not have even started to open the seals but maybe he has and is close to the end.

In Matthew 24, the Olivet discourse, Jesus lists the signs of his coming.  These harmonize well with the signs associated with the seals of revelation.

As Jesus told us to watch for these signs, it is unlikely that the rapture would occur before these signs take place.  Otherwise, the people who are told to watch out for the signs (the believers) would never get to see them if the rapture took place before the first seal.

In any case, we need to be awake and sober minded so that the Lord’s coming will not surprise us.

In times of such suffering and persecution we need something to encourage us to persevere.   The degree of suffering and persecution itself will be a sign that the Lord’s coming is near.

The Western Church should not be complacent and think that the Lord’s coming is not near just because it is not being persecuted and put to death like the Church in the Middle East.

1Thess 5:4 says: ‘But you, brothers, are not in the darkness so that this day should overtake you like a thief’.  So the Lord coming like a thief applies to those who are in darkness.

Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day on which your Lord will come. (Matt 24:42)

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http://www.truthinlove.com/References/144000JewsSealed.html

http://www.truthinlove.com/References/seven_seals_trumpets_bowls.htm

http://www.truthinlove.com/analogies/seven_seals.htm

http://www.truthinlove.com/References/last_trumpet.htm

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The rapture of the church takes place just as the seventh trumpet sounds

 

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Diagram showing the three groups of people who will be on earth during the great tribulation:  The Saints (Born Again believers), The Gentiles (Pagans) and the Woman (Israel).

The 144000 taken from the 12 tribes of Israel are intimately related to the Woman in Revelation chapter 12.

The 1260 days that the Dragon pursues the Woman (time times and half a time) is the same 1260 days that the 2 witnesses prophesy.  This also corresponds to the 42 months that the saints are persecuted and the 42 months that the Gentiles trample Jerusalem.

The Trumpets sound at the same time the seals are opened with the seventh seal being simultaneous with the seventh trumpet.

The Church is Raptured at the end of the 1260 day Great Tribulation

God then pours out his wrath on the Nations who are left behind.  The seven bowls of God’s wrath are poured out in the next 75 days – this is the third woe which is part of the seventh trumpet.

The 144000 from the 12 tribes of Israel are also sealed and protected during this time.

Christ will lead an army of believers to strike down the Nations and defeat the Beast and the False Prophet.  (Rev 19)

God will separate the sheep from the Goats during the 75 days that follow the rapture of the Church.

http://truthinlove.com/References/seven_seals_trumpets_bowls.htm

http://www.truthinlove.com/analogies/seven_seals.htm

http://www.truthinlove.com/References/last_trumpet.htm

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The 144000 Jews from the 12 tribes of Israel are sealed before the tribulation starts

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Revelation 7:1-4

After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree.   Then I saw another angel coming up from the east, having the seal of the living God. He called out in a loud voice to the four angels who had been given power to harm the land and the sea: “Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.”  Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.

The sealing of the 144000 is mentioned in the interlude between the opening of the six and the seventh seal.   The four angels are instructed not to harm the land or the sea or the trees until a seal was put on the servants of God.

The 144000 are most like the Woman in Revelation 12 that is pursued by the dragon for 1260 days or times time and half a time.  The Woman is taken to a place in the wilderness where she is protected for the duration of the Great Tribulation.  It, therefore, follows that the 144000 must have been sealed before the Great Tribulation starts.

As with the Gentiles who trampled the Holy City for 42 months and the two witnesses who prophesied for 1260 days, the 144000 are sealed and protected for 1260 days.  The point at which these events are mentioned is at their conclusion after 1260 days corresponding to the interludes between the 6th and the 7th trumpet or the 6th and the 7th seals.

 

http://truthinlove.com/References/seven_seals_trumpets_bowls.htm

http://www.truthinlove.com/analogies/seven_seals.htm

http://www.truthinlove.com/References/last_trumpet.htm

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When the seventh seal is opened, the seventh trumpet sounds, the Church goes up in the twinkling of an eye and then God pours out his wrath.

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Revelation 10:7

But in the days when the seventh angel is about to sound his trumpet, the mystery of God will be accomplished, just as he announced to his servants the prophets.”  (NIV)

But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets. (KJV)

The mystery of God will be accomplished when the seventh angel begins to sound his trumpet.  This mystery is also mentioned in connection to the last trumpet in 1Cor 15:51-52.  This mystery is that we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed in the twinkling of an eye when the seventh angel begins to sound his trumpet.

1Cor 15:51-52

Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.

When the Seventh angel sounds his trumpet, Christ has opened the last seal on the scroll which is part of the book of life containing the names of the Children of God.  It is time for the Children of God to be revealed.  When the trumpet sounds, poof, in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, the first resurrection and the rapture take place.

Rom 8:18-19

I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us.  For the creation waits in eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed.

Creation is waiting in eager expectation for the Children of God to be revealed.  This will happen when the Lamb opens the last seal on the Scroll which is part of the Book of Life.  At that moment, the Children of God will be redeemed from the Earth but not before those who are asleep in Christ are raised.

Rev 11:15-18

The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said: “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Messiah, and he will reign for ever and ever.” And the twenty-four elders, who were seated on their thrones before God, fell on their faces and worshiped God, saying: “We give thanks to you, Lord God Almighty, the One who is and who was, because you have taken your great power and have begun to reign. The nations were angry, and your wrath has come. The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your people who revere your name, both great and small—and for destroying those who destroy the earth.”

When the seventh angel sounds his trumpet, the kingdom of this world becomes the kingdom of our Lord and of his Messiah and he will reign for ever and ever.  The mystery of God is accomplished (Rev 10:7) and the sons and daughters of God are revealed.  The Book of Life, the little scroll has been opened and those who inherit eternal life as the Children of God are raptured or resurrected to be with Jesus and will remain with him forever. 

But there is more to the seventh trumpet; the Nations were angry for the time of God’s wrath has come.  The seventh trumpet is the third woe and it contains the seven bowls of God’s wrath which are for the whole Earth (not just a third of the Earth as was the case with the trumpets).  The seventh trumpet is the time when God pours out his wrath on the nations who have been left behind after the Church has been removed and the 144000 Jews Sealed.

The dead outside of Christ are not resurrected for judgment until after the Millennium.

Rev 6:12-17

I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red,  and the stars in the sky fell to earth, as figs drop from a fig tree when shaken by a strong wind.  The heavens receded like a scroll being rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place.

Then the kings of the earth, the princes, the generals, the rich, the mighty, and everyone else, both slave and free, hid in caves and among the rocks of the mountains.  They called to the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! For the great day of their  wrath has come, and who can withstand it?” (NIV)

The sixth seal involves an earthquake, signs in the sky, stars falling to earth and the heavens receding like a scroll being rolled up.  The kings of the Earth, princes, general, the rich and mighty and everybody tried to hide form what was about to happen in the next seal.  For the time of God’s wrath has come.  God’s wrath will not be poured out until the Church is removed and the 144000 are sealed.  This is exactly what happens next and then the seventh seal is mentioned.

Rev 7:1-4  &  9-14

After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree.  Then I saw another angel coming up from the east, having the seal of the living God. He called out in a loud voice to the four angels who had been given power to harm the land and the sea:  “Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.” Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.

After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands.  And they cried out in a loud voice: “Salvation belongs to our God, who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb.” All the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures. They fell down on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, saying: “Amen! Praise and glory and wisdom and thanks and honor and power and strength be to our God for ever and ever. Amen!” Then one of the elders asked me, “These in white robes—who are they, and where did they come from?” I answered, “Sir, you know.” And he said, “These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. (NIV)

After the sixth seal, but before the seventh seal is mentioned, the 144000 from all the tribes of Israel and the Great Multitude from every nation, tribe, people and language are described.  Finally the seventh seal is mentioned, almost in passing.   When it was opened, there was ‘silence in heaven for half an hour’. 

The sealing of the 144000 and the rapture of the Great multitude could well be what the seventh seal is all about as the names on the little scroll are not known until the seventh seal is opened.  When the scroll is opened the rapture an the first resurrection take place.

Rev 8:1

When he opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven for about half an hour. (NIV)

This verse really belongs to chapter 7. It follows the discourse on the Great multitude and the 144000.   As nothing else is said about the seventh seal, perhaps the sealing of the 144000 and the rapture of the great multitude are what the seventh seal is about.  They are not just placed  ‘in between’  the sixth and the seventh seal.

The seventh seal therefore is intimately liked to the rapture and the first resurrection as well as God’s wrath.  This is also what the seventh trumpet is about.  The seventh seal and the seventh trumpet are, therefore, coincident with one another.

This begs the question: “What about the other trumpets, are they coincident with the respective seal.

The seven bowls of God’s wrath are part of the seventh trumpet and are poured out after the Church has been raptured.

http://www.truthinlove.com/analogies/seven_seals.htm

http://www.truthinlove.com/References/last_trumpet.htm

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Where will you be spending the Millennium? What about Eternity?

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People will be divided into at least 4 groups when Jesus returns.

People will be divided into at least 4 groups when Jesus returns.

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The Harvest at the End of the Age. It coincides with the First Resurrection and the Second Coming of Christ at the seventh Trumpet.

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The Harvest at the End of the Age.  A Great Multitude of believers (Wheat)  are raptured to be with Christ when he comes on the clouds at the Seventh Trumpet at the End of the Great Tribulation.  This co-incides with the First Resurrection which is when dead believers (also wheat) are raised to be with Christ.  False Christians (Weeds) are also harvested from the Earth at this time by an angle in charge of the fire and they are thrown in to Hell for eternal punishment.  The Nations are left on Earth and are divided in to the Sheep and the Goats according to how they treated God’s people.  Those that persecuted God’s people (the Goats) are thrown into the Lake of Fire.  Those that were Kind to God’s people receive a reward.  They will become the Nations on Earth during the Millennium and in Eternity if they do not rebel against God when Satan is released form his prison at the End of the Millennium.

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As with any harvest, there will always be a few flowers or fruit that mature a bit before the majority. These are the First Fruit of the Harvest. In the Harvest at the End of the Age, there will be 144000 First Fruit Christians who are already mature before the Great Tribulation starts.

As with any harvest, there will always be a few flowers or fruit that mature a bit before the majority. These are the First fruit of the Harvest. In the Harvest at the End of the Age, there will be 144000 first fruit Christians who are already mature before the Great Tribulation starts. They will be raptured to be with the Lord at the beginning of the Great Tribulation. The majority of the believers will be raptured at the end of the Great Tribulation to meet Christ in the Clouds when He comes at the Last Trumpet (Seventh Trumpet). The First resurrection and the rapture take place at the same time.

As with any harvest, there will always be a few flowers or fruit that mature a bit before the majority. These are the First fruit of the Harvest. In the Harvest at the End of the Age, there will be 144000 first fruit Christians who are already mature before the Great Tribulation starts. They will be raptured to be with the Lord at the beginning of the Great Tribulation. The majority of the believers will be raptured at the end of the Great Tribulation to meet Christ in the Clouds when He comes at the Last Trumpet (Seventh Trumpet). The First resurrection and the rapture take place at the same time as the coming of the Lord (Seventh Seal/Trumpet).

<< Revelation 14 >> New International Version 1984


The Lamb and the 144,000

1Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads. 2And I heard a sound from heaven like the roar of rushing waters and like a loud peal of thunder. The sound I heard was like that of harpists playing their harps. 3And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. 4These are those who did not defile themselves with women, for they kept themselves pure. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among men and offered as firstfruits to God and the Lamb. 5No lie was found in their mouths; they are blameless.

The Three Angels

6Then I saw another angel flying in midair, and he had the eternal gospel to proclaim to those who live on the earth—to every nation, tribe, language and people. 7He said in a loud voice, “Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of his judgment has come. Worship him who made the heavens, the earth, the sea and the springs of water.”

8A second angel followed and said, “Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great, which made all the nations drink the maddening wine of her adulteries.”

9A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand, 10he, too, will drink of the wine of God’s fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. He will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. 11And the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever. There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name.” 12This calls for patient endurance on the part of the saints who obey God’s commandments and remain faithful to Jesus.

13Then I heard a voice from heaven say, “Write: Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.”

“Yes,” says the Spirit, “they will rest from their labor, for their deeds will follow them.”

The Harvest of the Earth

14I looked, and there before me was a white cloud, and seated on the cloud was one “like a son of man”a with a crown of gold on his head and a sharp sickle in his hand. 15Then another angel came out of the temple and called in a loud voice to him who was sitting on the cloud, “Take your sickle and reap, because the time to reap has come, for the harvest of the earth is ripe.” 16So he who was seated on the cloud swung his sickle over the earth, and the earth was harvested.

17Another angel came out of the temple in heaven, and he too had a sharp sickle. 18Still another angel, who had charge of the fire, came from the altar and called in a loud voice to him who had the sharp sickle, “Take your sharp sickle and gather the clusters of grapes from the earth’s vine, because its grapes are ripe.” 19The angel swung his sickle on the earth, gathered its grapes and threw them into the great winepress of God’s wrath. 20They were trampled in the winepress outside the city, and blood flowed out of the press, rising as high as the horses’ bridles for a distance of 1,600 stadia.

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The pagans (nations / gentiles) who are alive when Christ returns will be separated into the Sheep and the Goats after the Church has been raptured. These Sheep are not Christians.

The pagans (nations / gentiles) who are alive when Christ returns will be separated into the Sheep and the Goats after the Church has been raptured. These Sheep are not Christians. These Sheep go on into the Millennium as the Nations with the 144000 Jews and repopulate the Earth. The Nations will outnumber the Jews 10:1. The Sheep Nations will never become part of the New Jerusalem but they may be allowed to enter it once a year for the Feast of the Tabernacles. The Leaves of the Tree of Life are for the Healing of the Nations.

The pagans (nations / gentiles) who are alive when Christ returns will be separated into the Sheep and the Goats after the Church has been raptured. These Sheep are not Christians. These Sheep go on into the Millennium as the Nations with the 144000 Jews and repopulate the Earth. The Nations will outnumber the Jews 10:1. The Sheep Nations will never become part of the New Jerusalem but they may be allowed to enter it once a year for the Feast of the Tabernacles. The Leaves of the Tree of Life are for the Healing of the Nations

August 25, 2012 Posted by | Are you ready?, Day of the Lord, Firstfruits, firstfruits are raptured pretrib, heavenly reign of Christ, pagan resurrection, Post Tribulation Rapture, pre-wrath rapture, premillennial view, seccond coming of Christ, Uncategorized | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | Leave a comment

The 144000 First Fruit Christians redeemed before the Great Tribulation are a different group to the 144000 Jews that are sealed when Christ Comes

The 144000 First Fruit Christians redeemed before the Great Tribulation are a different group to the 144000 Jews that are sealed when Christ Comes

August 23, 2012 Posted by | Day of the Lord, Firstfruits, firstfruits are raptured pretrib, heavenly reign of Christ, Post Tribulation Rapture, pre-trib rapture, pre-wrath rapture, premillennial view, seccond coming of Christ | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | Leave a comment

The Church gets raptured after the Tribulation but before God pours out the Bowls of his Wrath on the Nations.

The Second Coming of Christ is at the End of the Great Tribulation, before the Millennium starts. When Christ comes at the Last Trumpet, He will raise the dead believers and rapture the Church. He will then pour out his Wrath upon the Nations of the Earth who have been left behind. He will bring an Army of believers to Strike down the Beast and the False Prophet and the Kings of the Earth. The Day of the Lord is when God Judges the Pagans who are alive when He returns. He will separate the Nations into the Sheep (who were kind to God’s people) and the Goats (who persecuted God’s people). The sheep will receive an inheritance which was prepared for them from the Beginning; namely to be the nations during the Millennium and in Eternity. The Goats will be those who accepted the Mark of the Beast and persecuted the Church. They will be thrown into the Lake of Fire. The dead outside of Christ will not be judged until the end of the Millennium when they will be raised for Judgment at the Great White Thone (A Second Resurrection – for Pagans). Those whose names are not in the Lambs book of Life will be thrown into the Lake of Fire where the beast and the false prophet were thrown. Satan will also be thrown into the Lake of Fire at this point. Born Again believers from the Old and New Covenant will then dwell together with God in a New Jerusalem. The Throne of God will be on Earth and God will live with His people.

August 13, 2012 Posted by | Day of the Lord, Post Tribulation Rapture, pre-wrath rapture, premillennial view, seccond coming of Christ | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | Leave a comment